Posts by Ray Frankz

there were many times i was going out in service saturday morning and couldn't wait for 12:00 to come along so that we could go swimming, bicycling, play basket ball, go to the beach... .

That's normal, The service is much more work than religious behavior. We may kindo of like our job, normally because we think of the reward, our wage in this case. The JW also consider this a job and their wage is now the feeling that they are ok with God, since no elder will visit them to talk about spirituality if they work many hours on the field. There's the most important wage for them that is their hope to live forever what they are taught they are securing this by the preaching work.

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Land of the living dead

by hoser in

one of my children got disfellowshipped recently.

i was worried about that some of my jw friends and jw relatives would mention it to me and it would make for awkward conversation as i am glad that he is out.

i went to a jw family gathering.

Ray Frankz

I have a disfellowshipped person in my household and it's the same. Even the eleders only refers to him as "the chap". It's incredible, even when they send regards to the family they mention everyone in the house except him, in order to make clear that the regards weren't to the disfellowshipped.

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Has anyone noticed how Tony Morris is always referring to his notes ?

by Chook in

i honestly believe he has memory difficulties, him and mr letts iq is not much greater than a rabbit.

no the rabbit wins..

Ray Frankz

Morris and Lett are making me belive that somone else but the GB is running the Watchtower Corp. These clowns certainly need help tying their shoe laces in the morning.

Meet Don Adams.

ps> From the GB I see Geoffrey Jackson as the most articulated and appearing to be intelligent.

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Another thought about WT 607 bull.

by Crazyguy in

the babylonian empire didn't start until assyria was finally defeated in 612 bc.

then as we know babylon supposedly destroyed jerusalem in 607 according to wt.

before jerusalem was destroyed babylon had taken jerusalem and taken prisoners including the king and deported them to babylon and then according to ezekiel at 33:21 twelve years into their captivity a man from jerusalem came and told him the city had been destroyed.. ok so how does jerusalem get conquered 12 years before 607 when the babylonians hadn't even become the major power yet??

Ray Frankz

That was one of the things I told my mother that definetely bothered her about the Org. She passed days asking me more information from the internet. She got to the conclusion herself that the only articles that defends WT position is the WT's. After the initial thrill, she came back to the routine and forced herself to forget it probably.

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Imagine if Jw ran schools ?

by Chook in

after learning the alphabet no other education required.

history would be distorted, science rejected.

i'm surprised that gb didn't realise there is big money in education, big tony could be the professor of bullshit..

Ray Frankz

Actually they would teach kids how to read and do maths.

Science, ok but Skip evolution

Languages, ok but Skip hebraic and greek

History, ok, but Skip history of the religions on 19 and 20 centuries.

The rest of the time schedule would be mandatory technical courses on jobs based in handworking.

Each class, one would be sorted out to take Law school in order to have lawyers to defend them.

Each class one would be sorted out to take Med school to advocate pro Blood ban.

Each class three would be sorted to take Engineering in order to build their 'Cathedrals' - Bethel branches.

Everybody would have to take sales course.

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Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World

by Brokeback Watchtower in

he was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.

Ray Frankz

Ok, Marx is Russell

Rutherford is Lenin?

Knorr is Stalin?

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My story...

by ironsnake656 in

i would like to share my brief experience about my life from liberal jw to a ex-jw.

as i told you in my first post, i'm from juarez, mexico.

i'm second generation born-in, well not really... my mother knew jwland in 1968 and a year later, she got baptized.

Ray Frankz

For the last few years I have been relearning my math and physics to help my children.

That's the best one can do. Learning what makes us feel good. And I'm sure your kids are making you proud with their develop.

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I know this sounds absurd but are JWs turning Pentecostal

by joe134cd in

i just viewed this.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5703039295946752/clapping-singing-conventions-like-evangelicals.

ok the point has been made.

Ray Frankz

When I was around 15 years old, during the family study, after we read the article that changed the meaning of TFDS from all 144000 to the GB (something that I had anticipated since I was 13, but had kept to me as apostate thinking) I said to my parents:

"If brother Russel was ressurected today he surely wouldn't recognize the movement he started today"

Well, to my surprise, now I say:

I don't recognize the religion I was born in.

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Oct 2017 W/T on love.

by WHATSGOINGON in

the october 2017 wt study article (simplified).

let us consider some examples of fake love.

when satan talked to eve in the garden of eden, what he said made it seem that he wanted the best for her.

Ray Frankz

The October 2017 WT study article (simplified)

First of all this simplified version was a good idea until they decided there would be only the simplified version. The articles, which were becoming even more empty of logic, sentiment and reasoning with the years had a drastic fall with this change. The reasons seem to be clearly because they need people of this level of intelectual demand and reasoning to keep the religion. These poor articles don't attract the attention of well educated people at all and this way the criticism will be fewer. (actually this is a great enterpenour move. Not so good from the 'God's channell). The other reason may be that they are lacking good writers as they had back in 60s 70s (people that I only know by name because of RF book) and the current writers have no skills or the GB just got lazier.

Jehovah might stop blessing the congregation with his holy spirit, and the congregation would not have peace.

It's interesting that this has created such a paranoic enviromental among the JWs here. Every time something goes bad (low assistance to the meetings, low rate of biblic studies or hours in the field, plenty of fights among brothers or sisters) they start to think "who is the motherf*cker who is sinning this time?". Ironically they have this idea even if the problem is sucessive disfellowshippings, something that according to them should please God since they are "cleanning the congregation".